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		<title>By: Jim Howell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the clarification. But I think you should have put a little of that into the article itself. For example, if you favor the Senate version of the bill, without the enumerated list, you could have said so. Or you could have taken the last sentence from your comment above and found a place for it somewhere in the article, to make it clear that you are not opposed to protecting students from bullying, but are opposed to the particular proposed measure for other reasons.

As I wrote in my previous comment, the article gives the impression that, since you oppose HB-1366, you don&#039;t care if homosexuals are bullied, that such bullying doesn&#039;t bother you. Your message above makes it clear that this is impression is incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the clarification. But I think you should have put a little of that into the article itself. For example, if you favor the Senate version of the bill, without the enumerated list, you could have said so. Or you could have taken the last sentence from your comment above and found a place for it somewhere in the article, to make it clear that you are not opposed to protecting students from bullying, but are opposed to the particular proposed measure for other reasons.</p>
<p>As I wrote in my previous comment, the article gives the impression that, since you oppose HB-1366, you don&#8217;t care if homosexuals are bullied, that such bullying doesn&#8217;t bother you. Your message above makes it clear that this is impression is incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christian Action League has made it clear on a number of occasions that it is not in favor of bullying, more specifically bullying homosexuals. &lt;strong&gt;HB 1366 – School Violence Prevention Act&lt;/strong&gt;, however, was not really about bullying but a vehicle for advancing homosexual ideology in North Carolina’s public schools.

Rev. Creech noted in his editorial, &lt;a href=&quot;http://christianactionleague.org/news/the-school-violence-prevention-act-a-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The School Violence Prevention Act: A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing&lt;/a&gt; the reasons for the League’s opposition:

&lt;blockquote&gt;“Certainly no reasonable individual would want to be complicit with bullying for any reason. At least this is what the Senate thought and stripped away all of the enumerations from the House version of the bill and sent it back to that chamber for concurrence.

Nevertheless, the House voted not to concur by a 60-56 margin and Rep. Glazier vowed to get the objectionable language of “sexual orientation” and “gender identity or expression” placed back in the legislation.

The fact of the matter is no enumerations could cover all the bullying scenarios and none are needed to provide the essential protections for North Carolina’s children. At least this was the view of the North Carolina Board of Education in 2004. After considering an anti-bullying policy that initially listed 16 specific characteristics including “sexual orientation” and “gender identity/expression,” the board unanimously voted to approve the policy without the specified list.

Board of Education members steered clear of specific classifications in their policy for a number of reasons. Several were concerned that a list would cause school administrators to overlook bullying of other groups that were not on the list; and at least one member feared the classifications list would create a victim mentality in students who feel they fit the criteria.

So why insist on enumerations in the legislation? It is because there really is a hidden agenda by pro-homosexual influences.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;


The Christian Action League’s position against the measure was no more bigoted than that of the North Carolina Board of Education which felt that any enumerations were necessary to effectively protect all of North Carolina&#039;s children. Bullying is bullying under any circumstances and should not be tolerated for any reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christian Action League has made it clear on a number of occasions that it is not in favor of bullying, more specifically bullying homosexuals. <strong>HB 1366 – School Violence Prevention Act</strong>, however, was not really about bullying but a vehicle for advancing homosexual ideology in North Carolina’s public schools.</p>
<p>Rev. Creech noted in his editorial, <a href="http://christianactionleague.org/news/the-school-violence-prevention-act-a-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing/" rel="nofollow">The School Violence Prevention Act: A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing</a> the reasons for the League’s opposition:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Certainly no reasonable individual would want to be complicit with bullying for any reason. At least this is what the Senate thought and stripped away all of the enumerations from the House version of the bill and sent it back to that chamber for concurrence.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, the House voted not to concur by a 60-56 margin and Rep. Glazier vowed to get the objectionable language of “sexual orientation” and “gender identity or expression” placed back in the legislation.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is no enumerations could cover all the bullying scenarios and none are needed to provide the essential protections for North Carolina’s children. At least this was the view of the North Carolina Board of Education in 2004. After considering an anti-bullying policy that initially listed 16 specific characteristics including “sexual orientation” and “gender identity/expression,” the board unanimously voted to approve the policy without the specified list.</p>
<p>Board of Education members steered clear of specific classifications in their policy for a number of reasons. Several were concerned that a list would cause school administrators to overlook bullying of other groups that were not on the list; and at least one member feared the classifications list would create a victim mentality in students who feel they fit the criteria.</p>
<p>So why insist on enumerations in the legislation? It is because there really is a hidden agenda by pro-homosexual influences.”</p></blockquote>
<p>The Christian Action League’s position against the measure was no more bigoted than that of the North Carolina Board of Education which felt that any enumerations were necessary to effectively protect all of North Carolina&#8217;s children. Bullying is bullying under any circumstances and should not be tolerated for any reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Howell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By opposing the anti-bullying legislation, are you saying that it is OK to bully other students (but only if the victim is homosexual)? It certainly appears that that is what you are saying, and that your Christian &quot;love everybody&quot; is being overridden by the Bible&#039;s writings on homosexuality.

I think that bullying other students, beating them up, or doing other acts of violence against them, is not acceptable under any circumstances. I don&#039;t understand how you can find such actions acceptable if the victim is homosexual, if that is indeed your position.

If, instead, you agree that bullying and violence against students is never acceptable, even if the victim is homosexual, and that the proposed legislation is simply the wrong way to approach the problem, then what do you suggest as an alternative? If your answer is &quot;do nothing, who cares if gays get beaten up&quot;, (and that is certainly the impression one gets from your article), then you have no room to complain about those who see you as an anti-gay bigot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By opposing the anti-bullying legislation, are you saying that it is OK to bully other students (but only if the victim is homosexual)? It certainly appears that that is what you are saying, and that your Christian &#8220;love everybody&#8221; is being overridden by the Bible&#8217;s writings on homosexuality.</p>
<p>I think that bullying other students, beating them up, or doing other acts of violence against them, is not acceptable under any circumstances. I don&#8217;t understand how you can find such actions acceptable if the victim is homosexual, if that is indeed your position.</p>
<p>If, instead, you agree that bullying and violence against students is never acceptable, even if the victim is homosexual, and that the proposed legislation is simply the wrong way to approach the problem, then what do you suggest as an alternative? If your answer is &#8220;do nothing, who cares if gays get beaten up&#8221;, (and that is certainly the impression one gets from your article), then you have no room to complain about those who see you as an anti-gay bigot.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Rev Creech,
Thank you for your stedfastness on the Word Of God in this battle between good and evil.  Indeed the Bible is clear about homosexuality being a choice humans make as a result of their sinful nature.  We are not bigots just because we state facts based upon our Christian beliefs.  I can love a homosexual through Christ, but it does not mean I condone or agree with their lifestyle.  I am sure they would not like my lifestyle if it included embezelment of funds from their personal businesses.  If we are wrong for espousing our beliefs then why are they not wrong for espousing theirs?  Are they not just as much a bigot as we are?  Paul said in 2 Timothy 3:1-3 that the last days would be characterized by perilousness which included people without natural affection.  A lifestyle that is not capable of reproduction of another human is not natural since man was given a wife and told to multiply and replenish the earth.  
    Again I want to thank you for your stand on the Bible.  I would not worry about Tony Carteledge and his beliefs because they are far from Biblical.  He and his wife believe that she can lead a church in worship, that is not truly worship.  Instead they sit in a circle and talk or do something crafty or artsy.  That is not Biblical worship as I understand it from my Bible.
Sincerely,
Philip Brooks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Rev Creech,<br />
Thank you for your stedfastness on the Word Of God in this battle between good and evil.  Indeed the Bible is clear about homosexuality being a choice humans make as a result of their sinful nature.  We are not bigots just because we state facts based upon our Christian beliefs.  I can love a homosexual through Christ, but it does not mean I condone or agree with their lifestyle.  I am sure they would not like my lifestyle if it included embezelment of funds from their personal businesses.  If we are wrong for espousing our beliefs then why are they not wrong for espousing theirs?  Are they not just as much a bigot as we are?  Paul said in 2 Timothy 3:1-3 that the last days would be characterized by perilousness which included people without natural affection.  A lifestyle that is not capable of reproduction of another human is not natural since man was given a wife and told to multiply and replenish the earth.<br />
    Again I want to thank you for your stand on the Bible.  I would not worry about Tony Carteledge and his beliefs because they are far from Biblical.  He and his wife believe that she can lead a church in worship, that is not truly worship.  Instead they sit in a circle and talk or do something crafty or artsy.  That is not Biblical worship as I understand it from my Bible.<br />
Sincerely,<br />
Philip Brooks</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for the stand that you take. I agree one hundred percent with what you have said. Thank you for being on the front lines and fighting for all of us. You are doing a great job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for the stand that you take. I agree one hundred percent with what you have said. Thank you for being on the front lines and fighting for all of us. You are doing a great job.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your balanced perspective on this issue, and especially for your continued efforts with the legislature. (You may be interested in a sermon/article I wrote titled &quot;God&#039;s Cure for Homosexuality,&quot; which can be found on my website at http://AC21DOJ.org/GodsCureForHomosexuality.html) Well-intentioned people do not see how they are being used as pawns by the radical homosexaul movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your balanced perspective on this issue, and especially for your continued efforts with the legislature. (You may be interested in a sermon/article I wrote titled &#8220;God&#8217;s Cure for Homosexuality,&#8221; which can be found on my website at <a href="http://AC21DOJ.org/GodsCureForHomosexuality.html" rel="nofollow">http://AC21DOJ.org/GodsCureForHomosexuality.html</a>) Well-intentioned people do not see how they are being used as pawns by the radical homosexaul movement.</p>
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